Ἴδη - Stephanos Ethnika

Ἴδη OCR ✓ Trans ✓ Confirmed ✓

mountain

Ἴδη, Τροίας ὄρος. Ὅμηρος “Ἴδηθεν μεδέων”. ἀπὸ Ἴδης τινὸς βασιλίσσης, ὡς Χάραξ. οἱ οἰκοῦντες Ἰδαῖοι, καὶ Ἰδηίδαι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰδηίς εὐθείας θηλυκῆς.

Ide, a mountain in Troy. Homer: ‘ruling from Ide’. It was named after a certain queen Ide, as per Charax. The inhabitants are ‘Idaioi’; also ‘Ideidai’ is from the feminine nominative ‘Ideis’.

AI translation — gpt-5.6-sol; Gabe v3

Text Details

Entry	#24
Greek text	meineke (current) · csv_fallback
Source id	Meineke 326.10
OCR	gemini-constrained (gemini-3-flash-preview) on 2026-01-12
Word count	23
AI translation	gpt-5.5 v3 · gpt-5.6-sol

Cited Authors

Author	Work / Citation
Ὅμηρος (Homer)	Γ 276 (Iliad book 3, line 276)
Χάραξ (Charax)	FGrHist 103 F 54

Mentioned Entities

Entity	Details
Ἴδη	Ida (the mountain in the Troad) · place
Τροία	Troy · place
Ἴδη	Ida · place
Ἴδη	Ida · place
Ἰδαῖος	Idaeans (inhabitants of Ida) · people
Ἰδηίς	Idaeans (feminine ethnonym) · people
Ἰδηίς	Idae (feminine form/name) · place
Ide (mountain in Troy)	place · mountain · Troy · explicit · unresolved

Etymologies

Category	Explanation
Eponym Person	[The mountain was named] after a certain queen Ida, according to Charax.
Morphological Composition	Those who dwell there are called Idaioi, and Idēidai is derived from the feminine nominative form Idē.

Links

Place links	Ide \| 📍 Map \| Pleiades
Page scans	vol2_297.jpg
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Translation Guidance

Kind	Rule	Guidance	Detection
Formula	X (genitive ETYMON) + Y (nominative DERIVED NOUN) formula:439629f16cfaba3f	Translate as "Y is from 'X'" Domain: COMPARISONS & DERIVATIONAL ANALOGIES Rule status: In progress	Matched · high confidence · 2 scan rows · 2 occurrences
Formula	X (nominative DERIVED NOUN) + Y (nominative ETYMON) formula:4e7b910409d678a8	Translate as "'X' is from Y" Domain: COMPARISONS & DERIVATIONAL ANALOGIES Rule status: In progress	Matched · high confidence · 1 scan row · 1 occurrence
Formula	X (nominative PROPER NOUN) + X (genitive PROPER NOUN) formula:276bf314e3ad9973	Translate as "X, X" Domain: PROPER NOUNS & EPITHETS	Matched · high confidence · 1 scan row · 1 occurrence
Formula	X (nominative PROPER NOUN)... + ἀπό + Y (genitive ARTICLE + genitive ETYMON) formula:8856d9e4780f3c74	Translate as "X... from the form 'Y'" Domain: COMPARISONS & DERIVATIONAL ANALOGIES Rule status: In progress	Matched · medium confidence · 1 scan row · 1 occurrence
Formula	X (nominative PROPER NOUN) ... + ἀπό + Y (genitive ETYMON) formula:7c2ffc889ab09d8d	Translate as "X... after Y" Domain: COMPARISONS & DERIVATIONAL ANALOGIES Rule status: In progress	Matched · high confidence · 2 scan rows · 2 occurrences
Formula	ὡς + X (AUTHOR NAME) formula:d915b1886270056c	Translate as "as per X" Domain: SOURCE CITATIONS Rule status: In progress	Matched · high confidence · 1 scan row · 1 occurrence
Formula	ὡς + X (nominative ETYMON) + Y (nominative DERIVED NOUN) formula:7163e35f4bd326d9	Translate as "(just) as 'Y' is from X" Domain: COMPARISONS & DERIVATIONAL ANALOGIES Rule status: In progress	Matched · high confidence · 2 scan rows · 2 occurrences
Gloss	ὄρος ὁ gloss:184051ff413f789d	mountain, mount (X ὄρος = 'Mount X') Domain: TERRAIN/LANDMASSES	Matched · high confidence · 1 scan row · 1 occurrence

Herodian overlaps

Stephanos excerpt (left) is aligned with matched Herodian passages (right). Colors indicate corresponding overlap spans.

Herodian 1.311

char LCS 41 (36.6%) · word LCS 8 (36.4%)

Stephanos

Ἴδη, Τροίας ὄρος. Ὅμηρος “Ἴδηθεν μεδέων”. ἀπὸ Ἴδης τινὸς βασιλίσσης, ὡς Χάραξ. οἱ οἰκοῦντες Ἰδαῖοι, καὶ Ἰδηίδαι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰδηίς εὐθείας θηλυκῆς.

Herodian

…ς Μένδαν αὐτήν φησι, καὶ τὸ Τίνδη Θρᾴκης Χαλκιδικὴ πόλις καὶ τὸ ἄλδη. Τὰ εἰς 'δη' προσηγορικὰ μακρᾷ παραληγόμενα ὀξύνεται, ᾠδή, ἀοιδή, σπουδή, ἐδωδή, αὐδή. τὸ μέντοι Λήδη κύριον, καὶ Ἴδη Τροίας ὄρος. Ὅμηρος (Il. Γ 276) »Ἴδηθεν μεδέων« ἀπὸ Ἴδης τινὸς βασιλίσσης, ὡς Χάραξ. καὶ Μήδη καὶ Λύδη. Τὰ εἰς 'δη' λήγοντα ἔχοντα πρὸ τέλους συλλαβὴν βραχεῖαν μὴ εἰς σύμφωνον καταλήγουσαν, εἰ μὲν κύρια ὦσιν ἢ οὐσίαν σημαίνει, βαρύνεται, πέδη, κνίδη, σίδη. ἔστι καὶ Σίδη πόλις Παμφυλίας ὡς Ἑκαταῖος Ἀσίᾳ…

Herodian 1.67

char LCS 26 (23.2%) · word LCS 5 (22.7%)

Stephanos

Ἴδη, Τροίας ὄρος. Ὅμηρος “Ἴδηθεν μεδέων”. ἀπὸ Ἴδης τινὸς βασιλίσσης, ὡς Χάραξ. οἱ οἰκοῦντες Ἰδαῖοι, καὶ Ἰδηίδαι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰδηίς εὐθείας θηλυκῆς.

Herodian

…νονίδης, Φοινικίδης. Ἀστακίδης Πείσανδρος δεκάτῃ. Ἀρκασίδης ὁ Ἀρκάς· ὤφειλε μὲν Ἀρκαδίδης, ἀλλὰ διὰ τὸ κακόφωνον οὕτως ἐγένετο καὶ τὸ θηλυκὸν Ἀρκασίς. Ἀρσακίδης ἔθνος ἀπὸ Ἀρσάκου, Δαρδανίδαι οἱ Δάρδανοι, Ἰδηΐδαι οἱ Ἰδαῖοι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰδηΐς εὐθείας θηλυκῆς, Δρυΐδης ἔθνος Γαλατικὸν φιλόσοφον. Ἐρεβίδαι μέρος Λωτοφάγων· Φίλιστος ὀγδόῳ. Ὀδρυσίδης ὁ Ὀδρύσης, Ἀδυρμαχίδης Λιβυκὸν ἔθνος ὡς Ἡρόδοτος (IV 168). Πηδασίδης ὁ Πηδασεύς. Τευθίδης ὁ οἰκῶν Τευθίδα πόλιν Ἀρκαδίας. Πισίδης ἔ…